Watch on YouTube: Mount Shasta vs. Sedona: Spiritual Journeys & Transformations

July 26, 2024

Tracy Kumbera of Your Multidimensional Journey and Chloe Pedalino of The Source Within delve into the distinct energies and transformative experiences of Mount Shasta, CA and Sedona, Arizona. Tune in to learn how these sacred sites can support your ascension and spiritual growth

Transcript

Have you ever thought of visiting Mount Shasta or Sedona, Arizona? And wondered which would be better for you. What benefits do they have? What is the deep energy within each of them? Well, today, Chloe and I have gotten together as I’ve lived in Sedona for 12 years, recently moved, and Chloe’s been to Mount Shasta several times. So we are going to List the pros and cons and the energies and the experiences of both places to give you a better idea of what they’re like and help you make a decision of which one to visit.

And of course, if you’re watching this on YouTube and you visited one or the other, list your experiences down below, especially if you visited both of them. Well, how did you feel differently in each one?

Chloe, if you want to introduce yourself.

 

Sure. My name is Chloe Pedalino and my company is known as The Source Within, where I have a podcast. I also am a clinical therapist as well, and I am fusing, essentially, spirituality and mental health together. So thanks so much for having me here.

And, I’m Tracy Kumbera. I am a multidimensional guide, an intuitive soul coach. I also have a podcast, Your Multidimensional Journey, and I do one on one sessions, group sessions.

I have a soul spark community that I’m launching next week. So that’s really exciting. That allows me to do more Q and A’s and reach more people.

Very exciting. I forgot to add also that I host some retreats and I have an upcoming one in Mexico. I saw that next May I’ll be hosting one in Shasta.

Oh, beautiful. I will be there. I will be there. I’ve always wanted to go to Shasta. It was a best friend trip that never transpired. And she passed away. So now it holds a different energy for me because we never made it there. So it would be a blast to go there with you and enjoy the energy.

And you know, anytime you’re doing a retreat. So even if you hop on a plane and go to Shasta or Sedona by yourself, it always helps to find a great healer there. One that works with the energy that knows the places to go that can see inside you and help you bring forth what you wish to, whether it is clearing, healing, stepping into, I think both places are probably really great for that.

Absolutely. And also people who know how to connect with the land. In both of these places and the energy in both of those places as well.

Exactly. Although I have to say in my vortex journeys in Sedona, where we go to the stupa, the medicine wheel, we’re out on the land. The people that don’t feel it. And one of my best friends from Sedona that was just visiting me here, she hangs out with psychics. She actually does vortex journeys, but not real spiritual type. And she doesn’t noticeably see or hear or feel things. And so I have had clients that couldn’t really feel it until we got together. Like, you know this, as a healer, you can put your bubble of energy out so big that the client can step in that, and that helps them to feel the energy.

You can kind of guide them into the energy. Cause I’m telling you, everybody is seeing and hearing and sensing and feeling and knowing. They just don’t realize it like the great cognizance. The knowing gets me every time. I’ll hear a little something in my head and I’ll be like, yeah, I don’t want to do that today.

And then something happens. I’m like, oh, oh, that was you guys telling me to do that today. Yeah. Now I know. So, you know, when they’re there even if they don’t believe they can tune in, they are tuning in and you can help them tune in.

Yeah, I would absolutely agree with that. And I think the energy, at least in Shasta, I’ve been to Sedona as well. So I can speak a little bit to both, but, only briefly. You know, the energy and Shasta, I feel like is so palpable. It’d be hard to not feel it. And people who aren’t into any sort of this stuff also that I would meet there, what have you also talked about how profoundly energy was there? Like, I can’t put my finger on it, but it’s just something. So, that point, I don’t think you even have to be aware of, or know too much to to receive the benefits from actually being there. Yeah, to feel it. But also, even if you don’t feel it, know that it’s happening. It’s undeniable.

No, that’s true. It’s, there’s a lot of people that visit Sedona for the Red Rocks. And I’ve even seen them in the medicine wheel. They go running. I’ve literally seen them do a lap in the medicine wheel like it’s an Olympic sprint. It cracks me up. So even if they’re there for the Red Rocks, oh, they’re getting healing. And so it always kind of gives me a chuckle that they’re like, Oh, we’re just visiting it. It’s a bucket list thing. We’re checking it off like the national parks and we’re going to see the red rocks. And then they go home and their life crumbles and this blows up and that changes and all this stuff happens. I’m like, yeah, you took it home with you. What did you expect? I mean, you’re right. It’s that energy is going to work on everyone that shows up.

Right, right. And when I first went to Sedona, I wasn’t as in tune as I am now. I didn’t have a ton of wild experience, like Sensory experiential things there actually because it was just earlier in my experience, but afterwards when I got home, things started unraveling and opening up for me and this and that. And, so it was working, it was working just on a subconscious level.

And a lot of people don’t put two and two together. They don’t realize when it happens a week later that it was begun there. You know, that’s where it fired up.

Yeah, absolutely. And even in your intro we’re talking about how do you decide which one to go to Sedona or to Shasta and what I feel like is that a lot of these places with this amazing energy that they call you. I mean, at least that was my experience that they call you to them. So I encourage people to heed that to listen to that. Where are you? Are you drawn to Sedona? Okay. Listen to that. There’s a reason. Are you drawn to Shasta? Listen to that. And that’s what drew me to Shasta.

Didn’t that happen just a couple of months ago? You were going for a few days. It was like, get back here and you went for a couple of days, right?

Yes. Well, I had over my life, like throughout the years, Shasta was like, Oh, I should go to Shasta. You know, there’s like not knowing much about it, just being like Shasta, huh? Somewhere to go. And so it’s been a long time that it’s been a little bit calling to me, but I just didn’t put it two and two together or anything. And then this past year it was like, all right, I need to go to Shasta. Like I need to go. And then I went and I was like, okay. And then I was leaving and it didn’t want me to leave. So I came back and then I eventually left and yes, it drew me right back there within the same month. Yeah, it calls you

For Sedona, my kids were young then, and I was taking them to the Grand Canyon. I lived in the Midwest, and we were driving out to we were driving out to California, actually, but we were stopping at the Grand Canyon, and we stayed in Flagstaff.

And I saw a sign for Sedona when I was on my trail run. And I was like. Huh. It’s really close. I’ve heard about that place. And meanwhile, I had been hearing for months where the red rock meets the forest, where the red rock meets the forest over and over on repeat in my head. And I didn’t know what it meant.

So I’m like, well, until y’all give me like coordinates or, you know, turn on Google maps, I can’t, there’s nothing I can do with this. I was like, let’s just see what Sedona is like. So we go down the Canyon and I’m like, Oh, It’s where the red rock meets the forest. This is what y’all were talking about!

And then my best friend and I did a girl’s getaway every year. And so in 2011, we were going to go to Sedona and she had some work complications. And she’s like, I just can’t go. And I had already flown to LA. So I was already at her house. And I’m like, wow, you were there. Yeah. I was like, well, I love you, but I’m going without you because I’m not going to sit and watch you work for another four days.

And so I just told spirit, find me a good rental car. Find me a good Craigslist. This was before Airbnb. So yeah, I got on Craigslist to find rooms. And I went there and as I was driving up, I missed the one turn to come in from the West. And so I came in through Village of Oak Creek by, by Bell Rock. And as I turned the corner and saw Bell Rock I just burst into tears and it was like, you are home.

And so when I was done with that trip and I flew back to the Midwest, I told the kids, Hey, you want to move to Sedona? And they’re like, sure. And we just sold everything. And a month later we were in Sedona. Wow. That was 13 years ago. So I lived there for 12 years.

I loved being in the energy. Love the tribe, the community. That was the first time I had ever had my tribe, where you could sit in a coffee shop and talk about angels and aliens and starships and other lives and jumping timelines. So that was really fun.

I think the pandemic changed the face of a lot of towns and so Sedona changed a lot then my best friend passed away. So I was like, just get me out of here. This is not the town I moved to. My tribe is all gone. Between tourism and Airbnb, it really changed the rental market as it has all over the world. And so my tribe was gone. While the energy, the intensity was still there, it was a different town. So I moved and I traded it for the different elements, the mountains and the water and I think I’ll be back again, but yeah, I left the fire and went to earth and water. 12 years I spent there though. It’s like jet lag. If you fly a lot, you don’t realize your jet lagged because you are every day. And for me, that intensity, when you live in it every day, it just is.

So I have a question. I found when I moved to Sedona, I started having all these spontaneous visions and remembrances of native American lives I had. Did you feel now? Mount Shasta, you’ve got Telos, the seventh dimensional Lemurian enclave below. I’ve heard it has a lot of different energies, not just the beautiful divine neutral flow of Lemurians, but a lot of energies. Did you notice that you were having a lot of visions or sensing a lot of particular energies in Shasta?

Was I having a lot of visions and was I sensing a lot of energies, different energies? I feel like those are 2 part. That’s why I’m saying it. So, so ask me about both of them. I mean, in terms of memories, I have had memories about actually, being Atlantean. I’ll start there because I think a part of why I have been drawn to Shasta is to remember a lot and I have had this memory of me being Atlantean towards the end of the marine civilization, actually being in charge of helping the Lemurians move to that area and to the Pacific Northwest.

You and I’ve talked about me being a bridge in so many ways as well and I was thinking about you and I recording today, and you’ve spoken about connecting more with Lemuria. Is that correct? Yes. Yeah. That you’ve had passed. Yeah. And I connect more with Atlantian and so in history, it could be that they were at odds than they were to some extent. But I believe I was in this bridge role of knowing that like I was not favored by the Lemurians that I was trying to help, but also trying to actually help them reach safety and reach Telos and Oh wow. So I have that memory and I’ve had that through connecting through the land here, not just in Shasta, but also just the Pacific Northwest, the mountain ranges out here and that sort of thing. So that that has been a memory that that has come back.

And the energy in Shasta. I would I would say that there is a lot of different types of energy there. I was mindful, especially if I was alone at any time, I was mindful of where I was going. I was paying attention to the energy that I was feeling and you want to be when you’re just on that big, enormous, magnificent mountain by yourself. you’re in the wilderness, and it’s not just that type of wilderness and so I was mindful about walking around, and I had my dousing rod with me, and I would be really cautious about where I was going, if I was just going to an off beaten path kind of place.

The energy varied, I mean, incredible Pleiadian loving, nurturing energy and certain places that I was told about, where you could just sit and bathe and I look forward to to bringing people to this particular spot on the retreat. Really, really healing, feminine, loving energy and I think Shasta is known as the root chakra, and I believe that as we’re in this transition kind of time as we’re rebalancing between the divine feminine masculine, I feel like a lot of people are going to be called there to receive healing across time, space, all of that. So the Pleiadian energy I think is really key in that aspect.

What incredible energy, there’s a forest of ascended masters there, which is pretty magnificent and, and very cool and very fanciful. You see them scooting around in this forest type setting. So that’s kind of like a playful energy I found and almost like a social energy. I can’t see, but I feel so it can feel them buzzing around.

If I can interrupt a second. Sure. So ascended masters, anybody like Jesus, St. Germain, Sanat Kumara. There’s a lot of ascended masters, but also what happens is when we’re in these energy vortexes, the veil is so much thinner. So you can just sense them more. They’re just more easy to connect to. When you talk about the forest with the ascended masters, because when you step into that area, the veil thinner, you can connect more. So whether you can talk to them, whether you can just feel them, whether you talk to them and don’t hear the answers, trust me, you’re getting the answers, you really are. But just to commune with them.

And be in their presence. Just even to back up about the energy, for me, it was so palpable when you can tell when you’re in it, when you’re in this area of where the energy is and when you’re not. And that 5D, it was a big understanding of what are we talking about about 5D energy because you literally are there and it’s like you’re floating a little bit. You’re floating a little bit. All is good. Everything is great. Like, everything is going to be okay. There is a lot of love. There’s this unity sense of oneness just by being there, you can’t deny it. So when you’re talking so much about 5D and 5D is a state of mind, it was so nice to have a taste of that in some ways to be like, now I get kind of what we’re talking about here. I guess I would say that that was like a pervasive energy. Then you have these other energies that are coming in. And I think what you’re saying, right, is that you are at a higher frequency. So I was naturally at a higher state, meaning that I was naturally able to, like, as you said, commune and connect in with other beings.

And then I had another really profound, wild interaction with, I believe Telosians, meaning the Lemurians and Telos. Yes. Okay. Yes. And now I don’t know how that all works. I ask sometimes I’m like, okay, so are you not this? Like, can I just not see you? Because I know that they are physical or they can be in physical form.

They’re in physical form, but they’re in another dimension. It’s like, if you get up to get a drink of water right now, you may be able to talk to me from the kitchen, but I won’t be able to see you because you won’t be on screen anymore. I always say it’s not past, present, future, you know, as far as, as lives go and as far as timelines go, it’s kitchen, living room, dining room.

That’s why when you’re in a 5D state of being, you could walk past somebody and they could not see you. I mean, this, this would happen to me in Sedona. They would not even see you because you are in a different dimensional awareness than them so they just didn’t notice. Yeah, it’s fascinating.

So what was your experience then with the Telosians?

I was walking to the certain area and I had been introduced to it before by this man, Paul of Venus, a very good guide and, but I was venturing there on myself and it just was a complete portal, like, they stopped me. I was stopped in my tracks and they basically were explaining that this was an entryway and that I had been here before when I was an Atlantean was bringing the Lemurians there and they just were like, pausing me basically to show me the gravity of the situation and grant me permission essentially to continue into this vortex, sure, but also entryway into not sure exactly what, Lemuria or what have you.

Telos is one enclave of Lemuria, my experience is, and I think I discussed this, my one podcast that is the truth about Atlantis and Lemuria. I opened up spontaneously 20 years ago and once I opened up, everything kind of came to me. I mean, I didn’t go looking for anything because I didn’t know what to look for. And so everything came to me. And so I was in a vision one day where this tall guy in a cape or cloak or something took me into this really tall, big cave and it was just brown dirt and he was talking to me and he explained the Lemurians and once he took like the hood and the cape off, then he was just a more beautiful, glowing, loving person.

And we would walk through the cave and Andaran crystals, which Andaran crystals are like primordial energy. It’s almost like cut glass. Andaran crystals I find so extremely powerful. Have to be real careful where you get them. We went through the cave, like through a tunnel and off to the right was just a little brown dirt room, but it had these crystals sticking out of the walls. And I had already communed with Andaran crystals with the Andaran beings, the collective consciousness. And so I went in there and we had quite a talk, but when I came out, my guide took me farther in and it was like the cave ended and we ended up in the crystalline city of Telos, the seventh dimensional crystalline city of Telos.

So for me, are they people that live in a cave underground? No, it’s a different dimension. And it is a portal to Lemuria because Telos isn’t the only Lemurian enclave. There’s a lot of Lemurian experiences to be had, but it was very crystalline city for me and I still go back there because I have a six dimensional Lemurian life and a seven dimensional Lemurian life. So Nick, my six dimensional Lemurian self, I can just go visit him and talk with him.

So think of these energies as portals, like in Sedona, you’ve got Bell Rock and in front of it, you have Baby Bell. And Baby Bell Rock I remember the first time I climbed up and was sitting there and this is with my kids like in 2011 and we were watching the sunset and I kept seeing aboriginals and I’m like, what is going on? And then someone said, it’s the ley lines. It connects to Uluru, Ayers rock in Australia. I didn’t know that. So I’m sitting on it and I’m seeing all of this stuff. And I’m asking my kids, do you see this? What is going on? And to the east of it is another little rock, a closer to Courthouse Butte. And that is like a UFO rock. And so you sit on there and you just see the starships.

Although I have seen massive starships land in front of Bell Rock. Those were praying mantis people and they were very cool. It is really weird to talk to like an eight foot high praying mantis, you know, but they were really cool. My Arcturian Collective, the life I have there of the collective consciousness, my Arcturian Collective helped me see the starship and the praying mantis people.

But being a runner, I did a lot of trail running and I tell people, you want to be psychic. Wash the dishes, fold the laundry. For me it was trail running. It’s really rocky in Sedona and so I’m looking down at the rock. My brain is busy looking at the rocks so I don’t trip, which it has a task to do so it allows the multidimensional mind in. So then I could just hang out with my guides.

Most of the incredible experiences I’ve had were on Bell Rock. One time, I saw a guy that was. I was running past and he was coming down and he was alone. And the frequency was so different than mine that it was like jamming my signals. It was, and I could just feel it. And I had this thought, if I don’t get away from him, like he’s going to jam my signals. Like I’m just going to fall down. And so I did a burst of speed so that by the time he got close to me, I was already well past him. And I was like, what was that? And it was, one of his higher selves had jumped in him.

Now, when we talk about Sedona and being possessed by aliens, I personally don’t believe in that. First of all, it’s your higher self. It’s another Spark of your Soul. So it’s you in another life and you give permission. You may not be aware of it, but when they want to have an experience, then they say, Hey, can I come in and have this experience? So somewhere in your multidimensional mind, I guess you say, yeah, hop on in. And so it wasn’t him in there.

And the funniest part to me is once I was done with my run and I got to the south parking lot of Bell Rock, this older woman with two little kids said, Hey, have you seen this guy real tall, dark hair, hawaiian shorts. And I was like, yeah, he’s about 10 minutes behind me. And I’m thinking, it’s not really him now. So good luck with that. But I assume, you know, it’s how yourself left before he picked up his kids and tried to drive a car.

It’s more of a merging of consciousnesses. It’s not possession. I think I’ve seen men in black. I don’t remember the movie, but it’s not just possession. It is merging of consciousnesses.

One time I was running around bell rock and this old guy, I never stopped to talk to people because you’re running. Like I don’t just stop to chat someone up. And so, this old man was smiling at me and I just found myself stopped talking to him. And so we walked and talked a little bit and I could just feel, like somewhere in my head, it was like, this isn’t real, he doesn’t really exist. It feels like a really high dimensional Arcturian energy. And so we talked for a few minutes, it was very enlightening. And I’m like, well, I better continue my run. So I started to run and then I turned around to say one more thing -gone. And I mean, we’re on a trail, there’s nowhere to go, he was just gone. And another time it was a couple in the grocery store, that was hilarious.

For decades I have seen this like sacred divine triangle pyramid of energy between Sedona, Mount Shasta and Lake Titicaca in South America, and I’ve never been to either of those places other than Sedona so I don’t know, but I’ve seen the way, like the vortex, the ley lines, I’ve seen the way the energy goes. And so it’s not about living in the center of that pyramid. I think it’s about how the energy goes round and round. Because they bring different energy like Sedona is just plain intense.

We do have a chakra system in Sedona. Bell Rock is the divine mother to me. And that’s where I always started people on retreats. Bell Rock is the divine mother, it’s the root chakra, Cathedral is the sacral, the airport vortex, which is very balancing is the solar plexus and then the heart chakra is, is in uptown. Then you go into West Sedona for the throat chakra, Chimney Rock, which is right next to the Stupa and Medicine Wheel. Then for the third eye and the crown chakra, it goes way out of town. Like bear mountain, Boynton Canyon, which is very magical in and of itself, Boynton Canyon. A lot of people visit that. So yes, there’s a chakra system, but overall Sedona is just really intense.

Sedona was the guy’s wife’s first name that founded the town, that came down from Flagstaff. There’s a statue of her in front of the library. So Sedona Schnebly was her name. I lived right in front of the cemetery where she was buried.

But we had a saying in Sedona that Sedona shows you your stuff, because I’m not going to swear. Sedona shows you your stuff and kicks you out. And even for healers. Yeah. You were lucky if you lasted six months. I don’t know how I lasted 12 years. I don’t know that I was kicked out, I left. When you have such an important milestone in your life, like your best friend of, of almost 40 years passing, you just, boom, you just kind of blow up everything and go different directions. So I don’t know if it kicked me out, but I saw it happen all the time.

So it’s just really Intense energy that is very transformational. It ends things, it begins things, it shakes things up. And even if you think that you don’t feel the energy, you’ll have dreams, you’ll have visions, you’ll have synchronicities, like it’s doing its job, it’s going to do its job. For sure.

One other thing is that when you do the Chimney Rock loop, there’s Lizard Head Rock, which to me is my dragon. It’s the golden dragon energy. I always saw it as a dragon, not a lizard. So you’ve got the dragon and then it’s right in front of Thunder Mountain and I have connected with beings that were seventh, eighth dimensional that lived under Thunder Mountain. A lot of people say that there’s a military base under Thunder Mountain or out in Long Canyon or something. I can’t speak to that. I stay away from that energy.

But the beings that lived down below Thunder Mountain. There are a lot of beings that live on Earth and within Earth in higher dimensions and they’re working with Gaia, they’re working with their own ascension. They’ve got their own journey. And these beings, every time I connected with them, when I would feel them really strongly, they weren’t interested.

They didn’t want to talk. They didn’t care. They weren’t friendly. I was like, okay. So it was really weird for me to feel them yet they wouldn’t talk to me. They just had no interest, but definitely there are beings living under Thunder Mountain and there’s amazing crystal caves under Cathedral Rock, bell Rock and Courthouse Butte, which are kind of all in a row.

Mm. But there’s beautiful, I mean an amethyst, a huge amethyst cave. I go there in like 5D Now, do they exist in 3D? You know, if the government decided to mine there. I don’t think so. I think it’s 5D because a place that I would always be taken to is, let me see. It was Citrine under Cathedral Rock, Amethyst under Bell Rock, and Smoky Quartz under Courthouse Butte, which is next to Bell Rock and the Smoky Quartz, there would be this huge slab that was like the size of a full size bed, except for it wasn’t flat. It was like a little bit of an angle. Sedona being an intense place, you’re doing a lot of transformation and so you need a break between it. So I would find myself, I would like, wake up in the morning and just find myself on that Smoky Quartz slab with Pleiadian beings in love and wisdom, truth, honor, all of it, love, it just, it was beautiful. I don’t know why it was comfortable, but it was, and it was just a lot of healing.

That’s very cool. That’s very, very cool. So have you heard of the Agartha network? What I’ve heard is the Agartha network is a network of underground civilizations now you’re saying, we don’t know, does it only exist in 5D? Does it not exist in the 3D? Like, we don’t really know that, I guess. but there’s talk about the Agartha network being this underground network of civilizations. Yeah. And so Telos is 1 of them, for example. So when you were talking about Sedona, having these, I was like, okay here. And also when you’re asking, what is Sedona in terms of like, chakra wise or what have you? I don’t know about that.

However, I do wonder there’s also something known as the 4 corners of the US and it’s not necessarily the exact corners of the U. S. If I’m remembering correctly, it’s more connected to the natives were aware of this. These locations, and I don’t know them exactly, but I’m wondering if Sedona is the Southwest border.

So it’s not like the 4 corners, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Utah.

It’s it’s a bigger one. It’s more, it’s more spiritual in the us. This is a whole, the four corners is something that just is coming to mind right now as we’re saying this. The Agartha is from a different thing. I’m just kind of putting these pieces together, this is how it happens for me. What I wonder about is are the is a four corners actually really this underground tunnel system. And that’s what the natives would talk about is that the people, the earth people, the cave people, you know, came up. And the cave people were in part Lemurian.

There are races that live in 5D different Native American races, different Druid races. And oftentimes this was hundreds and hundreds of years ago. So, when you hear about, well, this population just disappeared in 1400s. No, they didn’t. When white man came, they just went back up into 5D they didn’t want to play. The same with Druids. Some of the Druids you’ll find that when all the King’s men came up to Scotland, Ireland, some of the Druids were like, Oh, okay, I’ll play your game. Let’s see what happens. Most of them just went into 5D so you had that separation so that they could continue their evolutionary journey. So there’s a lot of them.

I have a Lakota guide that brought me to him. I found myself sitting on a fallen log in a forest with this warrior guy in front of me. This is the first time I met him and this was decades ago. And I was like, okay, hi. So we still talk occasionally. So just now I pinged him and I’m like, what’s this four corners?

Um, understand that while there were many cave people, cave dwellers, and there were. Caves and, uh, travels he’s, he’s showing me tunnels, but he’s calling him travels. There were travels between different places. That, that you speak of is spiritual. Understand that the star people, many of us, had great connections with star people and many of what you call native Americans today are still very connected to star people, whether it be Syrians or Pleiadians or other races, we have never been alone, never. So on this planet.

So understand that the star people he’s moving into because he’s showing me that star people had enclaves underground, but what would happen is much like, I guess, like the Toltec or Mayan and the vision quest or something. What would happen is they would go. I have no shamanic knowledge so I might have said that wrong. But what would happen is they go on this meditative vision quest. You know, like when you think of peyote and Ayahuasca. They would sit and whether they just sat in meditation and went into the enclave or taken there. So it’s your multidimensional mind and it’s bi-locating. So the answer is yes, there were caves and tunnels, but it’s much bigger than that because the indigenous that were here in this spiritual four corners.

He’s showing me there’s a spiritual four corners. If you look at the Dakotas west, so like the Northeast would be the Dakotas. The Southeast is in New Mexico and then Arizona and up to. Oregon. And so he’s saying that is the spiritual four corners, but understand there’s a spiritual four corners across the globe. It unites the world.

So it was just how I described bi-locating where you keep your brain busy so that your multidimensional mind can take your awareness. And the more you go there, the more of your awareness and your consciousness is there instead of here, that’s intuition. That’s how you see things is your awareness is over there more than here. So even though you’re sitting in your chair here, you’re actually over there. And when I first started, I practiced it so much that I can bounce back and forth all the time, and I can have multiple screens open and then, like, if my daughter walks into my room, I can say something to her and then go right back into Telos.

 

I was drawn to the Hohokam Indians natives to study when I was like 14, 15. I went on some school trip and it was doing archaeology in Arizona, and I’m just curious. I don’t know if they have any feedback about why that was.

Because you were resonating to your Orion lives. So the Hohokam that we’re reaching out to you when you were a child was your Orion connection. So have you ever seen your Orion lives?

I have been very called to Orion through a couple of various things. Have I seen them? Not necessarily, although I just had this experience the other night with the Arcturians that were coming to visit me that took me like beyond, I was like going through other galaxies to other existences and they were telling me that you are from here. But I don’t know more about my Orion lives now.

Ah, well, we’ll have to look into that, but that’s what that was. You know, the Native Americans, some of them were working more with Pleiadian, some more with Syrians. It was different, just like you said with Shasta, even though Telos enclave is under there, there’s also other energies there. In Sedona, everybody’s there. And so you, you’ve got anyone you wish to contact, it’s just volume on high, it’s like heavy metal music. It’s so intense and for many people, whether you wish to open up or not it’s gonna blast you.

I have a lot of clients that say, no, I’m called to Sedona. They have the ideal of Sedona, right? Well, I’m called to Sedona and I need to move there and I’m like, I don’t see that. It’s the ideal and they don’t realize that being called to Sedona. And this is with anything, , take it with a grain of salt, anything you hear, right? Because they’re called to Sedona. And I’m like, that doesn’t mean you’re called to live there. It means that you’re called there. Is it to clear something? Is it part of your transformation? Is it to meet someone else? There could be a lot of reasons, but very few people are called to live there because it’s such an intense place.

I wonder similarly for me and me and Shasta, but just to your point, if people are called there, I would, I would agree with you is go on a trip 1st. Go on a trip 1st and then see how that goes before you kind of pick up and move there.

And we can both agree that if you’re going to either Sedona or Shasta, having a great guide, if you’re there for the spiritual, if you’re there for transformation to have a great guide. You had mentioned somebody to tell me this name again.

Paul of Venus.

When I left Sedona, I trained the vortex journeys for a good friend of mine that’s an amazing healer, Trish Arnold. And she does some modalities that I don’t do. She’s a very kind of visceral and physical healer. It’s amazing. She just goes in and pulls stuff out of you. She does a lot of element work. I think she’s some shamanic work. But it really does help to have a good guide.

Trust it. And when you’re on the internet looking for guides and looking for tours to do, use your intuition because if you’re being called to either place. Then you’re going to want to jump in with both feet, make a list. What do you want to release ? What do you want to call in? What would you like to see happen? Because it’s not just Machu Picchu, that’s the spiritual pilgrimage. I believe that Sedona and Shasta both are also, along with a lot of other places.

Yeah, and you know what I thought was so interesting at Shasta was that I saw a lot of international travelers. I did not see so many North Americans. And I think it’s because there are other cultures that are a little bit more accepting, knowledgeable of the power of these mountains and volcanoes. In India, there are corresponding mountains there and in other Eastern countries and so they have great respect for it. I just thought that was kind of interesting.

And Shasta has all of that earth and tree energy whereas Sedona is all fire. Sedona is volcano. There’s a lot of volcanic rock and I was really surprised. Trail running, when I first moved, I’m like, why is it when the trail goes from red rock to black rock I just feel my energy being zapped, like being pulled down through my feet. And my running partner was like, because that’s volcanic rock. That’s what it does. It’s even more transformational. It’s volcanic. Think about it, it was made in fury.

Same with the Cascade Mountain range, we’re sitting on tectonic plates and that’s how Shasta shifted a bit. It’s like 15 miles off of the grid of the other Cascades here. That was like 300, 000 years ago. I think I’m correct. It is really interesting.

I have a very interesting question. So we talked about aliens. What about Sasquatch, Bigfoot? There’s another healer that lived in Mount Shasta for quite a while. All beings exist, dragons, unicorns, the elementals, fairies, dryads. If you can see into other dimensions, you can interact with them, provided they want to talk to you. There are a lot of fairy trees in Sedona. Rachel’s Knoll has a beautiful one. When you sit under the fairy tree and you just get to sit in their energy and talk with them. When we think of Tinkerbell, while they can do that, that’s not their native state. Fairies are actually six and a half feet tall. They’re taller than most humans. But what about Bigfoot Sasquatch? Did you feel that energy?

I didn’t, but I also wasn’t looking for it, if I have to be honest so like, I’m not sure if I was necessarily totally looking for it or open to it. I did not feel it, but people say, yes, that’s definitely something that’s known about Shasta is that that’s where Bigfoot lives, so that’s what people say.

And over in the Appalachian mountains. I can connect with them but I’ve never been in a place where they are. I’ve never felt them a lot of native American energy in Sedona, but I’ve never felt anything like that, but I just find that fascinating to be able to like go to their house, you know?

Yeah. Right. Right. Right. And different to go to their house. I mean, as I said, there was different energy and that’s what I said to be cautious about it. There’s lots around you, all sorts of different beings. That’s very palpable.

 

On the mountain, if you went over here, it felt more Pleiadian. If you went over there, it felt more like elemental. So it had areas.

It had different areas. Exactly. Yes, it does, both on the mountain and even down from the mountain, the energy is different. It’s huge mountain. So yes, different places would have different corresponding energy with it. Yeah, exactly.

That’s the same in Sedona with the vortexes, you know, Bell Rock tends to mother you and help you reach your goals. Whereas Cathedral Rock just rips everything off. It’s like, I’m going to throw up. I can’t do it. And that happens. A lot of people that are sensitive is just really intense energy. So when you’re doing something intense, like a Vortex Journey, a tour or climbing Cathedral or very few people can climb Thunder Mountain. It’s actually really dangerous and not recommended. So you have to go with someone that knows what they’re doing. Cause it’s pretty easy to fall. But when you’re done doing something super intense, you go to Airport Vortex and it’s very balancing so it’ll get you like harmonizing again after you’ve done something intense.

I find that Chimney Rock, because it faces all of the chakras. I mean, it’s a loop. So as you go around the loop, you’re seeing the lower chakras and you’re seeing the heart chakra. You’re in the throat chakra and then as you go around, you’re seeing the spiritual chakras, right? The crown in the third eye. And so I feel like that hike is a beautiful one. It’s ups and downs, but it’s only about 40 minutes and that one is a beautiful way to get a full body chakra balancing and feel all the energies of Sedona. But again, it depends on what your intentions are. I bet when you’re going to either place.

I definitely think it has to do with intentions and when they had brought me, he said specifically, usually I start much lower. He’s like, but they’re telling me I need to take you right here. And it was more intense energy. And different places you can get different types of energy, so the Mount of Venus is very much loving Venetian energy, , some Pleiadian energy, but predominantly Venusian energy is there as well. It’s just very interesting.

Ascension Rock is another place that’s very, very powerful as a portal and you definitely feel it. Oh, both places, tons of portals in both places. And to your point of like, when you’re done, once you’re soaking in the energy, I would feel like I slept so well when I was there. I mean, I was just coming down the mountain. You’re just, I was just wiped. And it’s so interesting. It was like this little loop that couldn’t take you more than 10, 15 minutes to do it normally, but you feel like it’s, you know, you feel like you’ve been like traveling for miles and miles in different places. And I feeling of being in portals. It’s you’re truly like out of this. world. I feel like you’re going on a trip. So really incredible.

And I’ll bring up that you can create personal portals so you can create and I’ve got a podcast on this to the doorways to your dreams, but you can create a personal portal. Now in Sedona I had a lot of instances where a portal would just show up and it’s like this big iridescent wall of energy and it would show up right in front of me when I was hiking. And so I really wouldn’t have the option of not stepping through it because it would show up right before I took the step. But as I went through that energy, I could feel it was a portal and I’d look around and I’m like. No, that guy that’s hiking towards me still looks the same and this tree still looks the same. It’s like everything looks the same, but you can tell it’s different. It’s like jumping timelines. And so you can create personal portals by setting your intention. Okay, I want to release this. I want to call in that whatever it is, and you just create a portal and step through it. And you tell your brain. I feel this. I see the portal. I sense the portal. I feel the portal. I have stepped through. And as I stepped through that portal, I am no longer the person that smoked or was crying over a breakup or whatever you’re calling in.

You can create personal portals, especially when you’re in a deeply sacred place like Shasta or Sedona, to step through and it really helps you energetically to release or to create healing.

Yeah, absolutely. There’s so much healing there. I want to bring up as well I feel like I need to say it. Is that, do you know of Adama or familiar at all? When you were talking earlier about these tall six foot or higher figures, kind of like a blonde blue eyed. They’ve been coming to me so I’m kind of rerouting back what I just it’s on my mind so I can’t not say anything about it.

And also when we’re talking about the 5th dimension and these underground civilizations. I’ve also heard, though, at some point in time, people are going to be intermixing more with. Because dimensions and that’s going to be happening like more and more.

Okay. First of all, Adama of Telos did come in. I remember reading the Adama stuff like 15 years ago, Adama did come in. That was my shiver because We can say he, but it’s more of a they, but did come in. So we can talk to them, but here’s the thing. They don’t come to 3D. As they contract their frequency enough to be seen by us, they may not be comfortable coming all the way to 3D. They might want to stay in 5D or

6D. So what’s happening is they’re not coming down to us, we’re going up to them.

So are we going to mix more with races that live in the different dimensions within Earth? Yes. You know, a lot of it is portals that lead to other places, but it’s us expanding our awareness and our consciousness. And here’s a big thing that I have seen in my 20 years of doing this and I very strongly believe in this is that we can already do all of this.

Everybody can do what I do. Okay. It’s our brain that stops us. Our brain is the gatekeeper. It’s the bouncer in the nightclub. That’s what I always say. And so the brain is parsing out that information. No, for this 3D experience we can’t do that. We can’t go there. We can’t see them. We can’t talk to Angels. But that’s not true.

So all we’re doing is retraining our brain to give us the information that it’s already getting. The brain does see everything, it just filters it out because it’s irrelevant to this experience. But now that we’re ascending more and we’re spending more time in higher dimensional states of being, then we’re conditioning the brain, let it in, let it in. I do go here. I do see this.

So I agree. So many of us are going to start having more and more experiences of going places, whether you believe it’s in a dream or in a meditation, it is bi-locating. And so we’re going more places and meeting more beings.

Now, most of these beings higher version of self, it’s another soul spark, it’s another one of the Soul’s lives. When I’m talking to to clients’ guides, it’s their guides, it’s a version of them and I can talk to them, but my guides are a version of me. So very rarely is a spirit guide or, an alien or a multidimensional being that you’re connecting with, rarely have I seen that they’re not a version of you. It’s it’s not 100%. I’d say 95 percent of the time you’re talking to you in a higher dimensional life. So remember, same Soul, you’re sharing a Soul. So it’s going to get easier and easier. Yes. And people are going to be more and more able to do it. So we will be visiting those places. We will see that.

So, you say, where do you want to go? Who do you wish to speak with? Who do you wish to connect with? And remember, you can hear their answer if you believe you can. Like, say you want to talk to Angels, just feel their wings around you. Just sense their presence. When you’re on Shasta, you sense the presence of all these different beings. You knew when you were here it felt Lemurian and when you were here it felt Pleiadian, you were sensing them, you were connecting with them. They were working with you. So. Whether you go to Shasta or Sedona, set the intention to connect with who you wish to.

And it’s not that, there’s no Sirians there, or there’s no Lyrans there, it’s not like that at all. You can connect with anyone that you wish to. There may be certain things that are prevalent, but you can connect with any being. So you have to set the intentions and open yourself up for it and notice, notice the signs, notice the dreams, notice the interactions.

Yeah, absolutely. When I just set the intention for whoever and whatever is the best to come to connect with me at this time that I connect with them. Because there are so many options. Yeah.

And then you ask questions. So who are you? Where are you from? What do you have to teach me? Ask a million questions, just keep asking questions and just keep getting the energy. Because the whole game of Ascension is opening more and more and more and seeing the bigger picture more and more.

Visiting both of those places and a few others on this Earth, but both Shasta and Sedona can really help you in your Ascension journey, help you to expand your awareness, to connect with more versions of self or new beings.

I’m trying to think of anything else to share with Sedona. Be prepared for the intensity. Be prepared for transformation.

Be open. Expect anything. I think these are such energetic places that there’s a magicalness to them so if you allow, if you’re open to what could happen and that was really my intention when I went to Shasta was really being open to whatever could come my way, open to the magic and serendipity and synchronicities. And that also all came my way.

It also brought things very quickly to my attention that I had to look at and face and deal with. So be prepared for that because it’s going to happen, but also the energy helps you move through it. So I feel like both brings it up, but also the environment is conducive to supporting you through it in my experience.

How about we end with, Adama had come in and then I pushed them out more because we kind of left that topic, but let’s bring them back in. And there are five being standing behind me, 10th dimensional Lemurian beings.

Telos is a portal to higher dimensional enclaves of Lemurian energy. So we will say you can reach our consciousness level. This is the beings behind me talking. So I’ll just talk out loud, usually it’s telepathic. It’s movies or pictures or words, but I’m like, why are y’all standing behind me?

Because that is where you feel us the most. Okay. And that is where we can present on screen. I’m like, okay, go ahead and blast everybody through the screen. I’m cool with that. Like the more, the more, the merrier let’s, let’s get the frequency going. So they’re standing behind me a lot of love, but a lot of power.

And of course we’re recording this. Leo season just started. We’ve been having a lot of solar storms, a lot of solar activities. So we’re just stepping into a really powerful time for self empowerment, but a real chaotic time. There’s a lot of chaos. There’s a lot of flip flopping going on. So get clear with who you want to be and what you want.

Because the energy is just blasting through and the more clear you are in what you want, or what you believe you want, the more you can ride that roller coaster, rather than getting thrown off the back of the dragon. And sorry, everybody’s showing up now, because I’m in the space. So they’re still here. The Golden Dragons are up there. And the golden dragons are telling me that they do a lot of work with Sedona. What about Shasta? You can connect with us in Shasta, but our energy resides more in the fire of Sedona, the Golden Dragon energy, the Golden Dragon fire.

While Shasta is a very powerful spot, it is not the fire of burning it off. It is more like the truth of Self revealed. So they’re showing me, it’s almost like you come up through yourself to the true You, the true You emerges. Yeah. Okay. So, Adama, standing patiently right here. So, Adama. Okay. We would wish to tell all of your listeners and all of your viewers that a trip to either place. will have the greatest of benefits, not only to your spiritual body, but to your mental, emotional, and physical bodies. Now is the time. Come visit and you will be guided.

It was a beautiful talk, the conversation between the two of you, but we will tell you, you will be guided to Shasta or to Sedona or to several other places within the U. S. but around the world. Now is the time for humans to make their pilgrimage. And understand that we will take Shasta for instance. If you feel you don’t have the time or the funds or other reasons that you cannot take a trip there.

It can be just as powerful to watch movies, to watch videos about it, to watch videos about Lemuria, about Telos, immerse yourself in the energies. So understand. If you feel unable to visit a place, you can still visit a place, but make your pilgrimage. This is the time to choose your newest version of self, your highest version of self. Who do you want to be?

And then use the energies. Of Sedona of Mount Shasta, use the Lemurian energies, the Pleiadian energies, use your Orion energies, Sirian, Liran, and many, many more. And understand we may come to you in a mist of color, in a fine mist or a crystal sphere, like the crystal spheres that I use when I channel.

We can come to you in many ways. But color is frequency, feel us, know us, sense us. And if you find yourself immersed in a colored sphere, ask whose energy is this? Who am I merging with? What am I bringing out for each of you? Humans is a very unique energy being and of the many, many lives that you have across many dimensions, many planets, many timelines, many, everything. Of all of the lives you have, they are all unique and they all resonate differently to your human self in your human heart. So the experience will be different for everybody. So the 2 of you could stand side by side on Mount Shasta and find that you are talking to Pleiadians and you are talking to Lemurians.

Oh, it is whatever you are calling in. It works for you. So good luck. We are always with you. Visit us, visit us in your dreams, visit us in your videos.

They just said, we are here for Ascension and, and Adama say, usually it kind of condenses into one voice. And at the end they go, we are here for Ascension. And they came into everyone’s voice. So it was like a stadium saying, we are here for your Ascension. And I was like, Oh, okay.

I’m asking the Lemurians behind me if they have anything else to say. No, they’re doing light codes. So light language, Lemurian light language, and there’s a beautiful light language girl, Jamie from the white walls on YouTube, beautiful light language, and a friend of mine in Sedona, Lightstar on YouTube. She can connect via light language to any being. So the two of them are beautiful with light language.

Light language is what this little group behind me is doing that blasting me right through my chair, blasting the screen. Light language is sacred geometry. I think we talked about this last time, you know, like, sacred geometry, so it is downloads. It is codes. It is information. It is wisdom. It is unlocking so much that we keep hidden from ourselves. And so you’ve got light language in every language, but the Lemurian light language that they are doing, like you, Chloe, going straight into your 3rd eye. And into your throat chakra and then just going down your body to affect your multidimensional DNA to expand it.

But when we talk Mount Shasta, there’s a lot of Pleiadian light language and Lemurian light language, very prevalent on Shasta, just blasting everyone. What about in Sedona? In Sedona, it’s more of the Solaran, the light codes of the sun, even of the moon. But a lot of Solaran light codes and so yeah, so just know there are so many ways to expand your awareness, but look at the light language, watch the videos of Sedona, of Shasta, see what you feel and just use it to propel you open.

And again, if you are watching this on YouTube, feel free to subscribe, give us a like, and we love to read the comments. Have you been to either place, both places? Do you do light language? Have you ever experienced light language? How do you feel about the energies in Sedona or Shasta? Or do you have another place you’ve been to that you found incredibly sacred? Share it with us.

Yeah. We’d love to hear more about it. Absolutely. We’d love to hear about it. And also check out The Source Within on YouTube because I sent out some Reiki healing from Shasta as well.

Thank you all for listening and thanks for having me, Tracy.

Oh, you’re welcome. We’ll see you all again.